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egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months, perhaps less than a month after he had secret service protection and entourage also we have seen that he's pumping gas, learning how to pump gas i guess or we'll assume he knew how to pump gas, but we've had a number of pictures of him at disney land on the roller coaster with his boys. >> look -- >> who -- sometimes people can lose a presidential election and continue to be a really phenomenal force in their party and in politics. i don't think this is going to be the case with mitt romney. he lost this election as you sa
egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months,...
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secretary of state hillary clinton, and egypt's foreign minister at a press conference in egypt. >> in the days ahead, the united states will work with partners across the region to consolidate this progress, improve conditions for the people of gaza, provide security for the people of israel. ultimately, every step must move us toward a comprehensive peace, for all the people of the region. >> the leader of hamas held his own press conference in cairo today, during which he said that while his side agrees to the cease-fire, his fighters have, quote, their hands on the trigger. in jerusalem, the israeli prime minister, benjamin net ya yan hew, also spoke about the cease-fire agreement. look at this. "prime minister benjamin netanyahu this evening spoke with u.s. president barack obama and acceded to his recommendation to give the egyptian cease-fire proposal a chance." he acceded to what president obama wanted. in other words, this is the american's idea, not mine, but i'm going to go along with it, because they're advising me i ought. it's very specific language, highlighting how cent
secretary of state hillary clinton, and egypt's foreign minister at a press conference in egypt. >> in the days ahead, the united states will work with partners across the region to consolidate this progress, improve conditions for the people of gaza, provide security for the people of israel. ultimately, every step must move us toward a comprehensive peace, for all the people of the region. >> the leader of hamas held his own press conference in cairo today, during which he said...
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he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of the united states in this crisis, you are always told oh, they're on the phone. so it is phone diplomacy for the united states, and that's about all. >> reporter: ann marie slaughter, do you agree with that? should the u.s. be doing more here? >> well, at this point, it's not really clear what the u.s. can be doing because although the egyptians and the turks and the qataris all have a big incentive to see a cease-fire that lasts, and i think the u.s. does, too. none of us can want it more than the israeli and the palestinians do. you can't create a settlement unless the principles act
he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of...
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egypt is run by the muslim brotherhood. although the prime minister stepped in, he stepped in calling israel the aggressor. turkey has turned in another direction against israel. >> it called israel terrorist state. >> there are new challenges and i do not know which way this is going to go. >> if you look at this over the long span of the last 20 to 25 years, everything that charles says in some respects has merit. but you can onto this one step at a time -- cannot do this one step at a time. at first, israel did not want to negotiate with the plo and viewed them as the worst of the worst. now they are the better part of the equation. now they will not negotiate with hamas. hamas is being pressured from more radical elements. each time you refuse to make a deal with people you detest, there is somebody worse. the arab community is a different community, and the pressure is coming much more ardently in that direction. >> the relationship between the u.s. and israel will not change. what has changed is what colby address, an
egypt is run by the muslim brotherhood. although the prime minister stepped in, he stepped in calling israel the aggressor. turkey has turned in another direction against israel. >> it called israel terrorist state. >> there are new challenges and i do not know which way this is going to go. >> if you look at this over the long span of the last 20 to 25 years, everything that charles says in some respects has merit. but you can onto this one step at a time -- cannot do this...
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egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a sunday night showing of the "twilight" move. police say his mother called authorities, afraid that her son had bought two rifles similar to the ones use in the colorado theater shooting. police say lammers admitted to that plan. >>> more on the developing situation in the middle east. could there be a ceasefire in the works, one that would include a guarantee from i that it would l not resume assassinations of high-ranking palestinian leaders and a ceasing of rockets from gaza? earlier on msnbc, the chief spokesman for prime minister netanyahu was skeptical of a truce.
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egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohammed morsi has influence wih hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change much of anything, and now the president who didn't want to get involved for a while or found that it was kind of useless not going anyplace is involved by sending dramatically the secretary of state. >> at some point, do you see the recognition of some sort of hamas? >> no, but i really have to disagree with my friend fuad. i don't think it's right to say barack obama is not pulled by the middle east and isn't fully committed to the same vision of peace between the israelis and the palestinians that bill clinton and george w. bush were. i think he has been
egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohammed morsi has influence wih hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to...
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a bloody offensive seize key regional player egypt cutting off its diplomatic ties with israel and it's speculation that the flow of islamic fighters could soon head into gaza. and rising up against austerity millions of europeans sign up for block wide action against cuts with mass protests provoking the very heavy arm of the little. live from our new center here in moscow this is r.t. with international news and comment twenty four hours a day israel has launched a deadly military offensive against gaza with fighter jets and warships attacking the occupied territory the operation began with the airstrike assassination of the military leader of hamas the palestinian group pledged to open the gates of hell in return ation well for more let's now cross live to tom barton he's in tel aviv so tom what can you tell us at this stage. well the situation down on the south in the south of israel and also in gaza continues to escalate the moment israeli jets are still drawing sites throughout gaza twenty sites specifically mentioned by israeli defense sources they say they want to destroy terror
a bloody offensive seize key regional player egypt cutting off its diplomatic ties with israel and it's speculation that the flow of islamic fighters could soon head into gaza. and rising up against austerity millions of europeans sign up for block wide action against cuts with mass protests provoking the very heavy arm of the little. live from our new center here in moscow this is r.t. with international news and comment twenty four hours a day israel has launched a deadly military offensive...
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that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking hands with the prime minister of israel and sealing this peace treaty between these countries, this president of egypt, the handshake was in march of 1979. two and a half years later, he was assassinated. how did he come to be assassinated? it came from this guy. this guy right now is in prison in the united states in a federal prison complex in north carolina thanks to his role in the first bombing of the world trade center back in the '90s. after he called for the assassination, who made the peace deal with
that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking...
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egypt then and now took the lead in negotiating. the circumstances, though, are quite dramatically different in a geopolitical sense now. israel wants to stop the rocketing. clearly a desirable objective from their standpoint. and they want to make it to try to deter future action by making this punishment severe but what they don't want to do is lose egypt. a high strategic value to israel is its peace treaties with israel and jordan and -- >> very difficult for president morsi. >> very difficult. >> he's in a very, very difficult position. he's obviously trying to not alienate the americans and the israelis, but at the same time, he's very aware of a lot of rising anger amongst the arab community about what is going on there. >> that's right. every leader in this conflict and in this region faces competing pressures. for morsi, it is just the ones you described. they are the muslim brotherhood. hamas is an offshoot. mubarak opposed and severely contained the muslim brotherhood. morsi is now part of them or they are part of their e
egypt then and now took the lead in negotiating. the circumstances, though, are quite dramatically different in a geopolitical sense now. israel wants to stop the rocketing. clearly a desirable objective from their standpoint. and they want to make it to try to deter future action by making this punishment severe but what they don't want to do is lose egypt. a high strategic value to israel is its peace treaties with israel and jordan and -- >> very difficult for president morsi. >>...
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it's currently negotiated in egypt right now with egypt continuing. the next phase is going to be whether or not the various restrictions on movements across the border. the israelis have said they will consider that. not entirely. # this is very much a first step at this point in time. >> thanks so much. fred, what's the situation there right now? >> reporter: well, the people here are also quite happy that there's no many rockets raining down on them. what you're not going to be seeing here on the israeli side is celebration. that's because people believe that hamas will regroup and fire rockets at israel again. here is what some people told me today. after a week long military operation and rocket barrages fired from gaza you were they're trying to get back to normal. in the town that suffered through so many air raid alarms this is the first time he can take his kid shopping without fear. >> you feel like you're back to life. >> reporter: you won't see people celebrating the cease-fire here. many saying it's did achieve the main objective of stopp
it's currently negotiated in egypt right now with egypt continuing. the next phase is going to be whether or not the various restrictions on movements across the border. the israelis have said they will consider that. not entirely. # this is very much a first step at this point in time. >> thanks so much. fred, what's the situation there right now? >> reporter: well, the people here are also quite happy that there's no many rockets raining down on them. what you're not going to be...
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it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything to do with benghazi. then why send her out to all the talk shows if she is going to be completely divorced from it? what were -- none of this make sense. believe me, when you have a breaking news event, you put the person who is most responsible and most knowledgeable on tv. it notice that none of the men stuck up for her. where is clapper? donilon? they let her, let her blame the video and they ruined her reputation. it blame the men. >> bob: they hung her out to try because nobody else would do it. hillary clinton wouldn't do it after colin powell's expe
it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything...
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he is the one that was letting these rockets to go egypt and into gaza. he was giving a state visit by president morsi two months ago when she should have been indicted because he is indicted for genocide in darfur. everybody looks the other way. >> there is a big picture developments. one of them is influence of the muslim brotherhood. i think hamas wants to get everybody's attention. we want to speak on behalf of the islamic radicals in this country --. >> greta: if iran's supply they could be cut off. >> not only is that not happening but iran apparently continues toward a nuclear capability. when that happens, saudi arabia is going to have a nuclear capability. every country in the gulf area is going to be thinking about developing one. situation is going to be child's play compared to what it will be like then. i have more good news... it's thanksgiving. >> greta: hamas publicly executing six people. one was tied to the back of motorcycle and dragged through the streets. meanwhile, people are taking pictures. late tonight, bombs on both sides of bord
he is the one that was letting these rockets to go egypt and into gaza. he was giving a state visit by president morsi two months ago when she should have been indicted because he is indicted for genocide in darfur. everybody looks the other way. >> there is a big picture developments. one of them is influence of the muslim brotherhood. i think hamas wants to get everybody's attention. we want to speak on behalf of the islamic radicals in this country --. >> greta: if iran's supply...
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egypt loses if there's an escalation. you can argue jordan loses because there's more public pressure on the king. the palestinian authority, there will be more pressure and the winners will be hezbollah, supplying missiles to hamas, iran supplying missiles to hamas. everybody has an interest in a cease-fire and yet there is an escalation that can get out of hand. >> the arab spring led to popular uprisings in many cases changing the leadership in those countries. how do you think the arab spring affected the calculation here and what's taking place with this conflict at this time. >> hugely. think about 2008. there was a major gaza war on larger scale than this one. 1400 palestinians were killed in that three weeks of war. what happened? yes, there was public opinion pressure in the arab world. it really didn't show up in terms of government policies. mubarak, critical of israel was actually coordinating with them because he didn't want to see hamas really succeed. that's true of several other arab leaders. right now, no
egypt loses if there's an escalation. you can argue jordan loses because there's more public pressure on the king. the palestinian authority, there will be more pressure and the winners will be hezbollah, supplying missiles to hamas, iran supplying missiles to hamas. everybody has an interest in a cease-fire and yet there is an escalation that can get out of hand. >> the arab spring led to popular uprisings in many cases changing the leadership in those countries. how do you think the...
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your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fuad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the discussions were handled through the intelligence agencies here within the egyptian government. now we see the intelligence agencies talking to the israeli side where they have long-standing contacts and the office of the president, president muhammed morsi of the muslim brotherhood who of course is a long-time fellow islamist ideological ally of hamas, handling the other side. so there are all these talks within the egyptian government to parallel the talks between hamas and israel. what we're seeing the egyptian government begin to do which is i think really ver
your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fuad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the...
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aid to egypt. >> egypt, watch you do and how you do it. teetering with the congress to have aid cut off if you incite violence between israelis and palestinians. >> $1 billion of u.s. aid can focus the mind of morsi who today accuse israel of aggression. raising questions if he can be the broker that former president hosni mubarak was. >> shannon: ed henry at the white house. thank you, ed. get insight on the potential cease-fire agreement, michael orrin. thank you for being with us today. i want to ask about the players in the negotiations now. start with hamas hamas. reuters is saying they have put things on the table. israel has yet to respond to what they proposed. is there anything you can tell us about that? >> hamas is saying that. i wouldn't take hamas as a credible source. listen, there is no secret formula here. it's simple. hamas fired 100 rockets in the last week. in course of 2012, 700 rockets. these people live in constant fear. they have to stop. we have to create situation that terror quist not decide every month or week to
aid to egypt. >> egypt, watch you do and how you do it. teetering with the congress to have aid cut off if you incite violence between israelis and palestinians. >> $1 billion of u.s. aid can focus the mind of morsi who today accuse israel of aggression. raising questions if he can be the broker that former president hosni mubarak was. >> shannon: ed henry at the white house. thank you, ed. get insight on the potential cease-fire agreement, michael orrin. thank you for being...
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>> iran is competing with egypt. they want to win. their chance is to have more extreme on the outside. so they support not only hamas, but also the jihad. >> islamic jihad. >> islamic jihad in gaza. so the islamic jihad forces them also to be more extreme. one of the problems in gaza is there is nobody to really -- there is a competition among four or five different groups. the sell afterists and the jihad and many other groups and they're competing and iran is supplying arms to all of them. >> so who do you negotiate the cease-fire with? >> look, hamas has to take charge, otherwise they don't have a future. >> can they? >> i think yes. they don't have a choice. not only them, but the others, too. if hamas won't take a position, the people in gaza will say -- to those others, stop it. what are you doing to? there are people in gaza too. and none of us want to see them suffering. it doesn't give us any pleasure. >> we'll have more from wolf's interview with shimon peres in a little bit. among other things, peres has some advice for ev
>> iran is competing with egypt. they want to win. their chance is to have more extreme on the outside. so they support not only hamas, but also the jihad. >> islamic jihad. >> islamic jihad in gaza. so the islamic jihad forces them also to be more extreme. one of the problems in gaza is there is nobody to really -- there is a competition among four or five different groups. the sell afterists and the jihad and many other groups and they're competing and iran is supplying arms...
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can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters. israeli police confirm that an explosive device detonated but say it was not a suicide attack. the white house is calling the attack against israeli civilians outrage o outrageous. the united kingdom is condemning the, quote, shocking violence. the eight-day conflict between israel and hamas has claimed the lives of more than 130 palestinians and five israelis. despite hopes of a ceasefire, tuesday ended as the conflict's deadliest day. secretary clinton who rushed to the region to try to prevent an escalation of the conflict is in cairo to meet with egy
can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters....
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, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we are. gaza is still very much a war zone atmosphere. although, as you mentioned, it is 9:00 local time so the cease-fire is officially in effect and hearing drones and up to the last minute as you noted but well before that, several minutes before that, a series of explosions as well as a series of rockets coming out of gaza in to southern israel and the question is whether it sticks for the rest of the night. >> obviously, everyone is watching very closely, certainly, in that region and around the world. the people living with
, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we...
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negotiations speer headed by egypt are ongoing, and tonight the united nations secretary-general ban ki-moon arrived in cairo, just hours after egypt's intelligence chief gave an israeli delegation a letter from hamas outlining its conditions for a cease-fire. so far on the israeli side, officials say throw people have died. 68 have been wounded as the result of rocket fire from gaza and in gaza, officials say 104 people have been killed. 860 have been wounded since the conflict began. as for fire power, israel says militants in gaza have fired nearly 1,000 rockets at israel. 570 of them have actually struck israel. another 307 have been intercepted by israel's so-called iron dome defense system. meanwhile, israel carried out 80 strikes today. it has now targeted 1,300 sites in gaza since it began its bombing campaign last wednesday. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, how are civilians dealing with this conflict? some of those numbers we hear, 870 people injured are frightening. >> yeah, they're not dealing very well with it. it's a very difficult situation. you have to keep i
negotiations speer headed by egypt are ongoing, and tonight the united nations secretary-general ban ki-moon arrived in cairo, just hours after egypt's intelligence chief gave an israeli delegation a letter from hamas outlining its conditions for a cease-fire. so far on the israeli side, officials say throw people have died. 68 have been wounded as the result of rocket fire from gaza and in gaza, officials say 104 people have been killed. 860 have been wounded since the conflict began. as for...
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>> we're always welcoming of an improvement with egypt. we've had a peace treaty for 34 years. that is essential for us, but no less crucial for the egyptians. we all need stability and particularly, egypt now, needs that stability and we have every reason to believe that interest will continue. >> thanks as always for your time. >> thank you. >> we have new information on the benghazi investigation because we now know who is saying they made the changes to the cia talking points and another european country got it today. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my s
>> we're always welcoming of an improvement with egypt. we've had a peace treaty for 34 years. that is essential for us, but no less crucial for the egyptians. we all need stability and particularly, egypt now, needs that stability and we have every reason to believe that interest will continue. >> thanks as always for your time. >> thank you. >> we have new information on the benghazi investigation because we now know who is saying they made the changes to the cia...
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how is egypt calling the shots in terms of the way the palestinians are reacting? >> reporter: well, on the one hand, one needs to remember when it came to trying to mediate deals between these two sides, egypt has always played something of a pretty critical and central role. what has changed now is the dynamics between egypt and israel after the arab spring, and after the fact that hosni mubarak, who was a staunch ally of the west and is no longer in power. and now the egyptians became an entity because of the fact they are led by the muslim brotherhood, became an entity significantly closer to the hamas leadership here in gaza. that really changed a lot of the dynamics and the way we've been seeing things play out on the ground. the dynamics of what is transpiring that led to the cease-fire, we'll have to wait and see if it holds. that is what has changed, most certainly, egypt, given the fact it is a very young government, has at least for now proven itself. in one sense it has passed that critical test. >> arwa damon, thank you very much. here now with a view
how is egypt calling the shots in terms of the way the palestinians are reacting? >> reporter: well, on the one hand, one needs to remember when it came to trying to mediate deals between these two sides, egypt has always played something of a pretty critical and central role. what has changed now is the dynamics between egypt and israel after the arab spring, and after the fact that hosni mubarak, who was a staunch ally of the west and is no longer in power. and now the egyptians became...
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as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak, very much aligned with u.s. and israeli interests. he was willing to turn a blind eye to israeli aggressions as they described it in gaza so long as he could secure the support of the u.s. and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily
as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak,...
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we appreciate the constructive effort of egypt and constructive effort of the president of egypt. it was for us a pleasant surprise and i hope he will continue his task, which is necessary for all parts of the middle east. i must also say we are not surprised that iran is pushing the other direction. they are continuing to supply long-range missiles and urge hamas to fire them against cities and settlements in israel. >> listening to the israeli president shimon peres talking about the continues of the cease-fire saying that negotiations must continue, also talking about the rockets that have been launched into israel from gaza and saying that they need to talk, they need to put their weapons down. we also know that secretary of state hillary clinton is on her way to the region to meet with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. she goes on to me with the president of the palestinian authority mahmoud abbas, and finally on to cairo, meeting with the president of egypt all of them critical players in negotiating some sort of cease-fire and eventually the idea would be middle ea
we appreciate the constructive effort of egypt and constructive effort of the president of egypt. it was for us a pleasant surprise and i hope he will continue his task, which is necessary for all parts of the middle east. i must also say we are not surprised that iran is pushing the other direction. they are continuing to supply long-range missiles and urge hamas to fire them against cities and settlements in israel. >> listening to the israeli president shimon peres talking about the...
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and i suspect the israelis are finding the new egypt very different than the old egypt. the old egypt did not see hamas as a brother in arms. they saw hamas as really a very different sort of arab cause. that's president mubarak. and now the president of egypt sees hamas as part of the larger muslim brotherhood movement. so israel didn't have anyone, probably, to talk to. and i suspect the united states was worried that this situation was going to possibly spin out of control. >> and obviously, since that meeting finished, the rockets, as he we said, the worst our reporters have seen. nick, where are we going from here? everyone is talking about a cease-fire. but yet when hillary clinton spoke about it, the united states spoke about it today, they didn't use that word. they used this word i did not understand called de-escalating. here is the secretary of state. >> america's commitment to israel's security is rock-solid. and unwavering. that is why we believe it is essential to deescalate the situation in gaza. >> nick, what does deescalate mean? is that diplomatic doubl
and i suspect the israelis are finding the new egypt very different than the old egypt. the old egypt did not see hamas as a brother in arms. they saw hamas as really a very different sort of arab cause. that's president mubarak. and now the president of egypt sees hamas as part of the larger muslim brotherhood movement. so israel didn't have anyone, probably, to talk to. and i suspect the united states was worried that this situation was going to possibly spin out of control. >> and...
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, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved diplomatically. they were pushing for the success of the diplomatic track while all the time preparing the military track at the same time in parallel in case the diplomacy didn't work. it seems to me particularly having told me earlier today, officials, that this was on hold, any kind of ground offensive to give diplomacy a chance to work, it seems that something must be coming to a head because secretary of state hillary clinton is on the way, as you say. she will be meeting. maybe there will be an announcement when she meets with prime minister netanyahu this evening here. >> it will be a late ni
, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved...
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he's speaking with the leaders of egypt. he's hoping that the government of qatar, of turkey, all of whom have good relations with hamas in gaza, that they can convince hamas to stop the launching of these rockets and missiles into israel. if they stop the israelis will stop their strikes against them and then they can begin, hopefully down the road, to achieve some long range solution that's going to be very, very difficult, as all of us know. but the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu, convened his cabinet here in jerusalem today. he made it clear in a public statement that if the rockets keep coming in, the israelis have already stood on standby 75,000 ground forces, reservists, 30,000 of them already have been activated during training exercises not far from gaza. and they'll go in, as brutal and as ugly and as horrendous as that might be. they might go in. they don't want to do that because it will cause an enormous amount of pain all around and the israelis have had a relatively poor experience in gaza four y
he's speaking with the leaders of egypt. he's hoping that the government of qatar, of turkey, all of whom have good relations with hamas in gaza, that they can convince hamas to stop the launching of these rockets and missiles into israel. if they stop the israelis will stop their strikes against them and then they can begin, hopefully down the road, to achieve some long range solution that's going to be very, very difficult, as all of us know. but the prime minister of israel, benjamin...
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egypt's prime minister was meeting how mass is prime minister as well in gaza and they were touring around the territory they were inside the hospital visiting some of the wounded when apparently two fresh victims when reportedly a child of an israeli air strike were brought in whilst egypt's prime minister was there and he reportedly said that he described the situation in gaza as a disaster saying i simply cannot keep quiet israel must stop its aggression egypt really throwing its weight behind the gardens and how much they're saying you know it is it is israel that bears the burden for this escalation in aggression however rockets have also been for being fired out of out of gaza and territory hamas and other militants there as well and since this truce is supposed to have been observed there have been israelis having to take cover in southern israel as well so that can we say that there are some signs of a ground invasion getting closer than. they are indeed there are a number of factors that point to that thirty thousand israeli reservists are ready to be called up they've also
egypt's prime minister was meeting how mass is prime minister as well in gaza and they were touring around the territory they were inside the hospital visiting some of the wounded when apparently two fresh victims when reportedly a child of an israeli air strike were brought in whilst egypt's prime minister was there and he reportedly said that he described the situation in gaza as a disaster saying i simply cannot keep quiet israel must stop its aggression egypt really throwing its weight...
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now we're seeing that egypt is continuing to play that role. obviously in public israel has a much different stance than -- i'm sorry, egypt has a much different stance. officials have come to gaza. they have publicly said they're standing shoulder to shoulder with hamas and the palestinian people. they've called israel's action acts of aggression, they've called on it to stop, but they are also playing a very significant role and they are the key brokers now with israel, and as far as we know, they've been sitting face to face with an israeli envoy to hammer out a cease-fire which includes hamas and all the other players in this region. so the u.s. appears to be quite satisfied with what egypt is doing. u.s. has said they don't want to see a ground war while constantly saying that they obviously support israel's right to self-defense. >> and christiane what about the palestinians on the west bank not aligned with hamas. what is the palestinian government saying there? >> reporter: well, you know, again, this whole situation is such an almighty
now we're seeing that egypt is continuing to play that role. obviously in public israel has a much different stance than -- i'm sorry, egypt has a much different stance. officials have come to gaza. they have publicly said they're standing shoulder to shoulder with hamas and the palestinian people. they've called israel's action acts of aggression, they've called on it to stop, but they are also playing a very significant role and they are the key brokers now with israel, and as far as we know,...
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particularly, of course, egypt's role. with we started this more than a would being ago -- would president morsi be willing and able to do this kind of heavy lifting, and it seems that he has done, and you were talking about guaranteeing this cease-fire. that's something that israel really wanted to have a partnership around the cease-fire, to go into it not alone with hamas, but to go into it with guarantors. egypt will be and turkey and qatar and other regional players as well. >> this is suzanne. do you know what hamas has gotten out of this? what sense do they feel they are walking away from the table, what have they achieved here? >> well, spoik to him just before this was announced. however, what they want to achieve is a lifting of the siege. i don't think i heard anything about that this evening. that is going to be something that we'll see whether that comes along. you heard in some of hillary clinton's original statements when she was in jerusalem last night she talked about needing a secure israel and supporting
particularly, of course, egypt's role. with we started this more than a would being ago -- would president morsi be willing and able to do this kind of heavy lifting, and it seems that he has done, and you were talking about guaranteeing this cease-fire. that's something that israel really wanted to have a partnership around the cease-fire, to go into it not alone with hamas, but to go into it with guarantors. egypt will be and turkey and qatar and other regional players as well. >> this...
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both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the firing stops, the rockets stop. and, of course, there is no invasion or anything like that. so that's number one. but number two is the state department explains that it gives space, theoretically, at least, for some of those longer, maybe medium-term to longer issues, like the blockade of gaza, which the hamas definitely wants to stop. those issues might be able to be addressed. so there is kind of, you know, short-term, medium-term and long-term would be peace between israel and the palestinians, but that's very far away. but those are the immedi
both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the...
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the block headed by egypt hopefully. turkey. iran. and the reason for noor of qatar is reaching you full money to gaza also the you know what's considered a step in the direction i should say is that maybe if we. try to start a new chapter in the history of the middle east and it's a history of flaws the parties that this. will try a little above you know. you buy. this kind of problem let's try to do something together let's not play at the goal differences confessional differ because this kind of policy might trigger bigger trouble here you mentioned you mentioned egypt well actually mubarak was a great mediator he was one of the gurus of the political process going on in in the region in africa and how now today once again egypt. managed to to to to to play the made eating real do you agree that it was a great opportunity for colorado to try to regain restore the status of a regional power. joe politically egypt is the heart is this something of. a realization so the new configuration of. influential countries of the world is being
the block headed by egypt hopefully. turkey. iran. and the reason for noor of qatar is reaching you full money to gaza also the you know what's considered a step in the direction i should say is that maybe if we. try to start a new chapter in the history of the middle east and it's a history of flaws the parties that this. will try a little above you know. you buy. this kind of problem let's try to do something together let's not play at the goal differences confessional differ because this...
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complicated matters when he reefr referred to israel as a terrorist state after attending talks in egypt. president obama spoke by phone yesterday to both morsi and netanyahu during his trip to southeast asia. in gaza hamas is calling for israel to stop killing its leaders and end a six-year blockade. meanwhile, new explosions continued through palestinian territory. they say they targeted the national islamic bank which they accuse hamas of using to pay its employees. an nbc analysis found israel has killed nearly 40 hamas militants over the last week, often using high precision drone strikes but the civilian toll has been high as well. thousands of people turned out for the funerals of four young children killed in an israeli air strike. meanwhile, israel's so-called iron dome missile defense has helped keep most missiles out of heavily populated areas. still some have made it through, like this rocket that hit a school. joining us now, nbc's eamon ayman in gaza. >> reporter: according to israeli military, more than 100 hit the gaza strip. this morning palestinian officials say the dea
complicated matters when he reefr referred to israel as a terrorist state after attending talks in egypt. president obama spoke by phone yesterday to both morsi and netanyahu during his trip to southeast asia. in gaza hamas is calling for israel to stop killing its leaders and end a six-year blockade. meanwhile, new explosions continued through palestinian territory. they say they targeted the national islamic bank which they accuse hamas of using to pay its employees. an nbc analysis found...
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aid to egypt unless he steps up even more. today senator graham, two others republicans said -- put out this tough statement saying, quote: we urge president morsey to act swiftly to stop the smuggling of weapons to gaza sinai toll sovereignty stability and national security. what they are talking about there is the fact that iran has been spreading weapons to hamas. then those weapons rained down on israel. in order to get to hamas, they have to go through egypt. what republicans are the hill are doing is trying to put even more pressure on president morsey to say okay you have taken one step here to try to forge a little bit of peace but now cut off those weapons, trace. >> trace: ed henry live for us at the white house. thank you. the nation that helped broker the cease-fire between israel and hamas dealing with some problems of its own. [explosion] protest iters in cairo fire bombed the studio of the broadcaster al jazeera and attacked a police chief who tried to negotiate an end to the violence. the rallies began monday,
aid to egypt unless he steps up even more. today senator graham, two others republicans said -- put out this tough statement saying, quote: we urge president morsey to act swiftly to stop the smuggling of weapons to gaza sinai toll sovereignty stability and national security. what they are talking about there is the fact that iran has been spreading weapons to hamas. then those weapons rained down on israel. in order to get to hamas, they have to go through egypt. what republicans are the hill...
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i think i think that the critical question for israel is egypt and how is egypt reacting and so far i think israel can be quite satisfied that though they did something quite risky and though what they did was upsetting to egypt because there had been a calm before the assassination that egypt brokered and israel violated that with the assassination. nevertheless they took this risk and the reaction from egypt has been far more muted than it could have been so far the greatest consequence has been for the egyptian ambassador to tel aviv to be withdrawn and that's something that even mubarak did nathan through all analysts with the middle east program of the international crisis group thank you thank you by this latest outburst of violence in the holy land has been left to many on the sidelines and already the lancelot i gave gaza is warning protests worldwide activist and demonstrators in a number of countries have rallied to decry the deaths and demand any needed end to the fighting. that's russia pledges to rate of the latest gaza friends over at the un i'm all for show and public r
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egypt made a positive contribution to realizing the cease-fire, but, yes, egypt has a role also in blocking the flow of smuggled arms from iran. through sudan or libya. both roots pass through egyptian territory before arriving in gaza. >> according to the terms vt cease-fire, the under lying cease-fire, it will be addressed after 24 hours of the cease-fire being in effect. to be clear, if we see no sign of aggression from gaza within 24 hours, issues will be built with immediately thereafter? >> it will certainly be discussed. certainly be discussed. we've had our border crossings open to gaza for virtually every type of material. no food shortage, medical shortage, for certain materials which we call dual use, like aluminum tubing that can also be used to make missiles. that was passed on to nongovernment or u.n. organizations we can trust. a big question about the border between gaza and egypt and the degree to which that will be open as well. >> according to senior obama administration official, it was president obama's two phone calls today that "closed the de deal." is that accurate t
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into the tunnels through egypt. that is not new. the nearly three years that i was there, that was a constant subject of discussion and controversy. this is a vast territory, much of it desert. not well policed and governed. a lot of competing local interests. those are contrary to those in some cases here. egypt is under taking a major role here and how they are able to succeed in that goes a long way to how the process goes forward. >> this may be a dumb question, when you are in these rooms, is there yelling or arguments or is it calm and rational? >> in my case, almost all of the di discussions were with one side at a time. there were few occasions of raised voices. the two did not come together. when we did have the brief meeti meetings between the prime men ster and the president, they were tense and straight forward. they made their points both sides. it will be some time before you get a representative in the same room. tough enough to get them in the same room with the palestinian authority which i say is c
into the tunnels through egypt. that is not new. the nearly three years that i was there, that was a constant subject of discussion and controversy. this is a vast territory, much of it desert. not well policed and governed. a lot of competing local interests. those are contrary to those in some cases here. egypt is under taking a major role here and how they are able to succeed in that goes a long way to how the process goes forward. >> this may be a dumb question, when you are in these...
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but now there are countries of equal importance, syria, egypt, iran, saudi arabia. everybody now has a big thing happening in their country. does that put more pressure now on the leaders of israel and the palestinians to come together and bang their heads together, get a deal done? >> i think so. the world focuses more on 130 palestinians killed, half of them terrorists, than 30,000 syrians, most of them civilians, killed by the assad government, and focus has been taken away from iran, which poses the greatest exstential threat, to the whole region this is a good time to sit down, try to negotiate what everybody knows would be the best solution for both parties it will not solve the hamas/gaza problem. but we can address the west bank problem. >> everybody seems to be nodding. a good moment to leave this for now. thank you, all, very much indeed. >> thank you. >> right back after a short break. e a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep.
but now there are countries of equal importance, syria, egypt, iran, saudi arabia. everybody now has a big thing happening in their country. does that put more pressure now on the leaders of israel and the palestinians to come together and bang their heads together, get a deal done? >> i think so. the world focuses more on 130 palestinians killed, half of them terrorists, than 30,000 syrians, most of them civilians, killed by the assad government, and focus has been taken away from iran,...
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to doing so egypt today is not egypt yesterday and i think the big question for all of us is yes what is egypt today in this conflict we don't know i think it was a very smart move of conduit to visit gaza today but i think all of us are watching now and see what exactly will be the position of the new georgian government here obviously it's not that close anymore to the u.s. position but whether they go into a confrontation with news radio government we will have to see despite this support from the likes of the u.s. and britain israel really is on thin ice now isn't it is it being increasingly surrounded by extremists bearing in mind the volatility of the region. why do you think it is actually provoking more enemies at this very delicate stage. it's so dangerous and really you know how do we couldn't believe my eyes when when when i saw the first pictures yesterday and. said i think it really has to do with the with the israeli elections coming out of. the euro is really playing with fire here . you putting into the whole equation there that the recent a woman policy i think the cu
to doing so egypt today is not egypt yesterday and i think the big question for all of us is yes what is egypt today in this conflict we don't know i think it was a very smart move of conduit to visit gaza today but i think all of us are watching now and see what exactly will be the position of the new georgian government here obviously it's not that close anymore to the u.s. position but whether they go into a confrontation with news radio government we will have to see despite this support...